Who Are the Astros’ Top Minor League Prospects?

February 28, 2015
Bill Gilbert is a veteran member of SABR, a respected and exceptional baseball data analyst, and a free lance reporter for The Pecan Park Eagle.

Bill Gilbert is a veteran member of SABR, a respected and exceptional baseball data analyst, and a free lance reporter for The Pecan Park Eagle.

Who Are the 2015 Astros’ Top Minor League Prospects?

By Bill Gilbert

This is the time of year when various organizations involved in scouting develop lists of minor league prospects. Four such projections are from Baseball America, Baseball Prospectus, ESPN and John Sickels. Their lists of the top 10 prospects in the Astros organization are shown below:


1 Carlos Correa 20 SS
2 Mark Appel 23 RHP
3 Vince Velasquez 23 RHP
4 Michael Feliz 22 RHP
5 Brett Phillips 21 OF
6 Colin Moran 22 3B
7 Teoscar Hernandez 22 OF
8 Josh Hader 21 LHP
9 Lance McCullers 21 RHP
10 Domingo Santana 21 OF



1 Carlos Correa 20 SS
2 Mark Appel 23 RHP
3 Vince Velasquez 23 RHP
4 Brett Phillips 21 OF
5 Derek Fisher 23 OF
6 Michael Feliz 22 RHP
7 Lance McCullers 21 RHP
8 Domingo Santana 21 OF
9 Colin Moran 22 3B
10 TeoscarHernandez 22 OF



1 Carlos Correa 20 SS
2 Mark Appel 23 RHP
3 Vince Velasquez 23 RHP
4 Colin Moran 22 3B
5 Brett Phillips 21 OF
6 Lance McCullers 21 RHP
7 Michael Feliz 22 RHP
8 Derek Fisher 23 OF
9 Josh Hader 21 LHP
10 J.D. Davis 22 3B



1 Carlos Correa 20 SS
2 Mark Appel 23 RHP
3 Michael Feliz 22 RHP
4 Vince Velasquez 23 RHP
5 Domingo Santana 21 OF
6 Brett Phillips 21 OF
7 Josh Hader 21 LHP
8 Lance McCullers 21 RHP
9 Derek Fisher 23 OF
10 Teoscar Hernandez 22 OF


Carlos Correa and Mark Appel are clearly the top two Astro prospects. Both were No. 1 overall draft picks. Correa has steadily advanced through the minors, with a batting average of .308, but suffered a broken leg last year and missed half the season. He is reported to be fully recovered now. He should be at Double A in 2015.

Appel’s path has been a little rockier. He was hit hard, playing at Lancaster, in the High Class-A California League last year before doing much better at Double A Corpus Christi and in the Arizona Fall League. In fairness to Appel, Lancaster is considered by many to be the most difficult park in the minors for pitchers because of the constant wind and dry desert air. Appel should get some experience at Triple A in 2015.

Baseball America’s list of the top 100 minor league prospects contains only two Astros, Correa, (No. 4) and Appel (No. 31). Last year there were six. George Springer and Jon Singleton were promoted to the majors, Mike Foltynewicz was traded to Atlanta in the trade for Evan Gattis and Lance McCullers dropped off the top 100 list.

Velasquez is the consensus No. 3 prospect in the Astro organization. He was picked by the Astros in the 2nd round in 2010. However he has struggled with injuries and has pitched only 265 innings in the 5 years he has been in the organization. However, he has been effective when healthy, striking out 10.55 batters per 9 innings in his career. He should be at AA Corpus Christi this year.

Feliz has an arm that has impressed scouts since he signed out of the Dominican Republic in 2009. However, he has reached only the Low Class-A level and needs a breakout season.

Phillips had his breakout season in 2014, batting .310 with 17 home runs and 23 stolen bases in a season divided between Houston’s two Class-A teams. He was Houston’s 6th round draft choice out of high school in 2012. He should reach the Double A level in 2015.

Moran was the 6th player taken overall by the Florida Marlins in 2013. He was traded to the Astros in 2014 and finished the season at Double A Corpus Christi. He has a .297 batting average over 3 stops in his brief career but has not shown much power.

Hernandez has made steady progress through the Astros farm system in his four years since being signed out of the Dominican Republic. He had a strong 2014 season mostly at Lancaster, batting .292 with 21 home runs and 33 stolen bases.

Hader was drafted by Baltimore in the 19th round in 2012 and came to the Astros in the trade for Bud Norris. In 2014, he showed that it was possible for a pitcher to excel at Lancaster with a 9-2 record and an ERA of 2.92 and 9.68 strikeouts per 9 innings. He was named the top pitching prospect in the California League. He should be at Double A Corpus Christi in 2015.

McCullers struggled at Lancaster in 2014 with a 3-6 record and an ERA of 5.47. However, he struck out 10.32 batters per 9 innings.

Santana, the third Dominican on the top 10 list, signed with the Phillies at the age of 16 and was traded to the Astros in the Hunter Pence trade in 2011. His star lost a little luster in 2014 when he was promoted to Houston at mid-season and struck out in 14 0f his 18 plate appearances. However, he had a good year at Triple A batting .296 with 16 home runs despite an alarming total of strikeouts.

The only two players from the 2014 draft that made any of the lists were Derek Fisher, a supplemental first round pick that played in the College World Series for Virginia, and J.D. Davis, a third round pick from Cal State Fullerton. Both played well in short-season leagues. Fisher batted .310 with 17 stolen bases and Davis batted .293 with 13 home runs.

The Astros top prospects are all in the 20-23 age range and Santana is the only one who has played at Triple A. As a result, they are not likely to have an impact in 2015. Appel is the most likely to provide some help in this season. However, if their development continues, several should be ready to contribute in 2016.

If you want to check out these and other prospects, I have a deal for you. For over 20 years, I have spent a week or two checking out the Astros at Spring Training in Kissimmee, Florida both at the games and on the back fields where I first watched players like Jeff Bagwell, Morgan Ensberg and Hunter Pence. However, I won’t be going this year and our Villa at the Sheraton Vistana Resort is available for rent the weeks of March 14-21 and March 22-29 at a discounted price of $1100 per week. It is next door to Disney World and very convenient for attending Astros and Braves home games. The resort has numerous swimming pools and hot tubs, a miniature golf course and two restaurants. The Villa is well-furnished with two bedrooms, two baths, flat screen TVs and a complete kitchen. You can check it out at:


Let me know if you are interested.

Bill Gilbert


E-Mail:   bgilbert35@yahoo.com

Doc Tally: A House of David Great

February 27, 2015

HOUSE OF DAVID, 1914-1950

Jesse Lee “Doc” Tally of Sumner, Mississippi was a BL/TR pitcher/outfielder for the famously bearded House of David barnstorming baseball club, incredibly in itself,  from 1914 until 1950. As the back of the later shown card here says, Tally quickly found himself billed as “The Bearded Babe Ruth” – a clear “knock off” attempt to steal some gate thunder from The Bambino, but also apparently pretty well earned at his level of play. As the same card says, Tally hit 29 home runs in the 44 games that the House of David played during the 1922 season.

29 HR in a 44 game season works out to a percentage HR rate of .659 over the club’s much shorter season. Still, transposition of statistical performance for the same result at the big league level is always fun, even if flawed by too many intervening variables to even list in a brief column. The gross result is still a mind spinner. Had Babe Ruth homered in 65.9% of the 154 games of his American League season, he would have had 102 homers on the season, if we round off the last one to help him make that reach.

Clearly, there’s little to no chance that a player with that kind of potential would have been left to get lost on the back roads of America for thirty-six years, if he actually possessed that kind of insane talent.

Tally-Scan 3

Left handed slugger Doc Tally is also credited with being inventor of the famous House of David “Pepper Game” – and he also served his club as their ace knuckle ball pitcher. Unsurprisingly, House of David insiders for years considered Tally to have been their greatest player.


Thank you again, Bob and Daryl Blair, for the two contributing card images.

Thank you again, Bob and Daryl Blair, for the two contributing card images.

The history of the bearded ball club that grew as a sort of traveling ambassadorial baseball team extension of  the Israelite House of David in Benton Harbor, Michigan has been fairly widely documented. If you are interested in reading further about the club, you may want to search for a copy of “The House of David Baseball Team” by Joel Hawkins and Terry Bertolino (2000) as a place to start.


Here is an ancient SABR newsletter review (We do not have the date of same.) that also points to another possible supply source. I haven’t yet read this book either, so I cannot recommend it until I do and make my own decision on its merits:


“The House of David Baseball Team by Joel Hawkins and Terry Bertolino is one of the Images of America Series by Arcadia Publishing. Hawkins and Bertolino selected over 150 black & white photographs to illustrate the story of these traveling bearded ballplayers from Benton Harbor, Michigan. Also included in the 128-page book is a list of House of David and City of David ballplayers.”

The Society of American Baseball Research (SABR) newsletter


Postscript Addendum: Wow! Were those really the “good old days” when a “perfect for boys” .22 caliber pistol could be mail ordered for $17.95? Of course, we have to remember, back in the “good old days”,  people, especially immature, always angry, drug-addicted and drunk people weren’t around to use guns to kill other good people. The kids just used them for target practice, shooting squirrels out of trees, and the old lady’s cat from next door when it trespassed into their own back yards. If it didn’t want to die, the damn cat never should have invaded the kid’s territory. – Besides, it was just a cat. – Right? – And more than that, remember, it was only a single shot pistol! – If the kid was a lousy shot, the cat had a better than sporting chance of getting away before the kid could reload!

How To Give a Cat or Dog a Pill Differently

February 26, 2015

While researching old files for something else this morning, this irresistible piece from an anonymous source simply wouldn’t stay lost and buried in my digital creativity landfill any longer. Hope it contributes to the elevation of your spirit today as much as it has to mine. – Editor, The Pecan Park Eagle.


How to Give a Cat a Pill




  1. Pick up cat and cradle it in the crook of your left arm as if holding a baby. Position right forefinger and thumb on either side of cat’s mouth and gently apply pressure to cheeks while holding pill in right hand. As cat opens mouth, pop pill into mouth. Allow cat to close mouth and swallow.
  1. Retrieve pill from floor and cat from behind sofa. Cradle cat in left arm and repeat process.
  1. Retrieve cat from bedroom, and throw soggy pill away.
  1. Take new pill from foil wrap, cradle cat in left arm, holding rear paws tightly with left hand. Force jaws open and push pill to back of mouth with right forefinger. Hold mouth shut for a count of ten.
  1. Retrieve pill from goldfish bowl and cat from top of wardrobe. Call spouse from garden.
  1. Kneel on floor with cat wedged firmly between knees, hold front and rear paws. Ignore low growls emitted by cat. Get spouse to hold cat’s head firmly with one hand while forcing wooden ruler into mouth. Drop pill down ruler and rub cat’s throat vigorously.
  1. Retrieve cat from curtain rail, get another pill from foil wrap. Make note to buy new ruler and repair curtains. Carefully sweep shattered figurines and vases from hearth and set to one side for gluing later.
  1. Wrap cat in large towel and get spouse to lie on cat with head just visible from below armpit. Put pill in end of drinking straw, force mouth open with pencil and blow down drinking straw.
  1. Check label to make sure pill not harmful to humans, drink 1 beer to take taste away. Apply Band-Aid to spouse’s forearm and remove blood from carpet with cold water and soap.
  1. Retrieve cat from neighbor’s shed. Get another pill. Open another beer. Place cat in cupboard, and close door on to neck, to leave head showing. Force mouth open with dessert-spoon. Flick pill down throat with elastic band.
  1. Fetch screwdriver from garage and put cupboard door back on hinges. Drink beer. Fetch bottle of scotch. Pour shot, drink. Apply cold compress to cheek and check records for date of last tetanus shot. Apply whiskey compress to cheek to disinfect. Toss back another shot. Throw Tee shirt away and fetch new one from bedroom.
  1. Call fire department to retrieve the damn cat from across the road. Apologize to neighbor who crashed into fence while swerving to avoid cat. Take last pill from foil wrap.
  1. Tie the little ‘so-and-so’s’ front paws to rear paws with garden twine and bind tightly to leg of dining table, find heavy-duty pruning gloves from shed. Push pill into mouth followed by large piece of filet steak. Be rough about it. Hold head vertically and pour 2 pints of water down throat to wash pill down.
  1. Consume remainder of Scotch. Get spouse to drive you to the emergency room, sit quietly while doctor stitches fingers and forearm and removes pill remnants from right eye. Call furniture shop on way home to order new table.
  1. Arrange for SPCA to collect mutant cat from hell and call local pet shop to see if they have any hamsters.






1. Wrap the pill in bacon.

2. Toss it in the air anywhere near the dog.


Always works at the same percentage rate the sun achieves in  rising from the east each morning.

Plain and simple. It’s dogs over cats every time.




The Ballad of Billy Sunday

February 26, 2015

Sunday-Scan 1



“Chicago” (Sung to the tune of …. well …. “Chicago”)

Chicago – Chicago – that toddling town
Chicago – Chicago – I will show you around
I love it – bet your bottom dollar – you’ll lose – the blues in – Chicago – Chicago
The town that Billy Sunday – couldn’t shut down

On State Street – that great street – I just want to say
They do things – that they don’t do – on Broadway
They have the time – the time of their life
I saw a man – he danced with his wife in – Chicago – Chicago – my home town

Chicago – Chicago – that toddling town
Chicago – Chicago – I’ll show you around
I love it – bet your bottom dollar – you’ll lose – the blues – in Chicago – Chicago
The town that Billy Sunday – could not shut down

On State Street – that great street – I just want to say
They do things – that they never do – on Broadway – say
They have the time – the time of their life
I saw a man –  and he danced with his wife – in Chicago
Chicago – Chicago – my – home – town



“The Ballad of Billy Sunday” to these ancient ears always has been the great Frank Sinatra version of “Chicago” by Writer(s): Nowak, Fisher, Roy Hawkins, Lorenz Hart, Samuel L. Nestico, Rick R. Darnell, Sammy Cahn, Francois Joseph Charles Salabert, Fred Fisher and Richard Rodgers. – Some of their names read immediately like a membership list from the Songwriters Hall of Fame. The others live on more anonymously in their endless ride with the famous on the way from here to eternity.

In case you want more. ….

The Frank Sinatra You-Tube version of “Chicago” —->  


The Evangelical Life of Billy Sunday —->


The Baseball Record of Billy Sunday —-> 


The Pecan Park Eagle again wishes to thank the Brothers Blair, Robert and Daryl, for their contribution of the card image that inspired the happy creation of this fun-to-put-together memoir of another great character from the early history of  baseball, the dead ball era predecessor or even a possible inspiration for a later born fictional character named “Elmer Gantry”, The Reverend Billy Sunday.


Mulvihill: Kid BP Pitcher for the ’51 Buffs

February 25, 2015


We are never too old to learn something new. Mike Mulvihill, my old friend and former classmate from St. Thomas High School (Class of 1956), is one of the most modest, down-to-earth people I’ve ever known. He never talks about his athletic accomplishments unless he is asked – and even then – it’s like pulling teeth. Mike always is guarded against the fear that someone may hear him and think that he is bragging.

Mike Mulvihill doesn’t have to brag. He was good. Dadgum good.

As one of the kids playing in our parochial school league, he was a terrific force as a pitcher in baseball and a running back in football. At St. Thomas, he teamed up with our also great Richard Quesada to lead the Eagles to three state TCIL titles in varsity baseball (1953, 1955, & 1956), also playing as a force for the St. Thomas American Legion team as it made its way to a state title in baseball during the summer of 1953. St. Thomas also won a state TCIL title during Mike’s 1952 freshman season and Mulvihill’s play in both baseball and football during high school were great enough to earn him a dual sport scholarship to Oklahoma State University starting in the fall of 1956.

As a pitcher for Oklahoma State, Mike played for the Cowboys team that took the 1959 NCAA Division One Baseball Championship at Omaha in 1959. This accomplishment established Mike Mulvihill in rarified company as the only student athlete from Houston St. Thomas who ever played for both a three-time state champion in baseball and a Division One National Champion in collegiate baseball, as well. We are hard-pressed to think of any other Houston high school to have performed that feat in baseball. Even in one exists, the accomplishment itself is spiritually singular.

Unfortunately for Mike Mulvihill, he stubbed his toe on the much later Bo Jackson cliche while playing football at OSU: “Because of an injury suffered in football, Mike’s future in either sport was taken from him.”

Post his life-changing injury, Mike Mulvihill proved that he was not the kind of guy to be derailed from a full life by adversity. He finished his degree at OSU, married Katie, a girl from Kansas and the love of his life, and then spent a professional career working in the oil field industry and raising a family. Mike is retired now – and living as a widower in a small town in north central Texas. Sadly, he lost Katie about three years ago. Although no one can replace her, Mike stays busy and in contact with his grown children, his grandchildren, and numerous good friends.

Now – here’s the proof of Mike’s modesty. A couple of days ago, Mike and I were discussing old times when, for the first time ever, he let it slip that he had once pitched batting practice against the Houston Buffs as a 13-year old youth baseball player.

“WHAT????” …. raced the thought through my head. …. “WHAT???” ….. I finally asked. – “How come you never told me about this until now?”

I got the almost expected Mulvihill answer: “I didn’t want to say anything that might sound like I was blowing my own horn or make you think I was bragging.”

As Mike relaxed and took the time to share this story with me, it proved to be one of the most awesome stories of kid achievement, old ties, serendipity, and a father’s love for his son that I’ve heard – and, believe me, I’ve heard some pretty amazing stories in my time.

The Houston Buff Story

Mike Mulvihill, Age 13 Pitcher Town House Buffs

Mike Mulvihill, Age 13
Town House Buffs

It was the summer of 1951. Al Hollingsworth, a native of St. Louis, was managing the Houston Buffs on their way to the Texas League Championship. Jack Mulvihill, the father of Mike Mulvihill, and also a much earlier “Kid from St. Louis”, was long-time settled and working in Houston. He was as proud as a only a father can sometimes be of his 13-year old son, Mike Mulvihill. Mike pitched for the Town House Buffs, a youth team managed by Father James Wilson, the longtime architect of the very powerful St. Thomas High School baseball program. Wilson also benefited from the presence of former Houston Buff and St. Louis Cardinal player Watty Watkins, a great baseball mentor who voluntarily helped coach and teach the young players of the Town House Buffs club. Mike Mulvihill was coming along at an astonishing rate of development as a pitcher and was also getting quite a bit of attention in Houston’s newspapers for his achievements in youth baseball.

One day, Manager Hollingsworth of the Buffs read one of these stories about the youth Buffs and noticed the name “Mulvihill”. He wondered if the kid might be related to another Mulvihill he had known back in St. Louis. He called Father Wilson at St. Thomas and learned that, yes, it was true. Mike Mulvihill was the son of his childhood friend Jack Mulvihill back in Missouri.

Hollingsworth called Jack Mulvihill, but let’s allow Mike Mulvihill to take it from here:


Mike Mulvill, Age 21 Oklahoma State Cowboys 1958

Mike Mulvihill, Age 20
Oklahoma State Cowboys

“Boots Hollingsworth grew up in St. Louis, as did my father and uncle, and they knew each other as kids. All attended Beaumont High School, I believe, which was a producer of lots of famous ballplayers like Earl Weaver, Pete Reiser and Dick Williams. They also spent lots of time on the sandlots of a neighborhood area in St. Louis  known as ‘The Hill”. This was a largely Italian-Catholic area. This is where Yogi Berra and Joe Garagiola were neighbors.

 “Jack Mulvihill, my dad, hurt his knee badly in high school and that injury cut short his sports play. My Uncle Lee Mulvihill was a really good high school player. Lee gave up any hope of going to college due to finances and WWII. He joined the Navy and served in the Submarine fleet. He retired as a Lt Commander. 

“Dad was so thrilled to hear from Mr. Hollingsworth, maybe even more so than me. Dad’s excitement was my dismay. Mr. Hollingsworth had invited me to come out to Buff Stadium in my Town House Buffs uniform and pitch batting practice for the Houston Buffs.”

(It’s me again. Put yourself in Mike’s shoes. How would you have felt as a 13-year old pitcher who had just been invited to come pitch batting practice for your home town heroes at a time when they were tearing up the AA Texas League?)

“Dad really enjoyed our first BP trip to Buff Stadium. He got to visit with an old friend and, as Dad was prone to do, get in a little too much bragging to suit me. I always hated it when he did that whenever I heard it, and it was hard not to hear it when he was talking while I was pitching.”

Mike Mulvihill, age 21 Pitcher Oklahoma State Cowboys

Mike Mulvihill, age 21
Pitcher, 1959
Oklahoma State Cowboys National Champions

 “I was in awe just being on the field that day in Buff Stadium. It was huge in comparison to the kinds of fields where I normally played. I remember throwing behind a screen for the first time. As  memory serves, I only threw to 4 or 5 hitters. In the back of my mind, I believe I pitched to Jerry Witte, Rip Replulski, Billy Costa and Dick Landis. I recall Landis for a special reason. Many years later, when we lived on West Galveston Island, a man came up to me and said, ‘I know you’. He explained that he used to play for the Houston Buffs and remembers this kid (me, of course) who pitched to him in batting practice. As it turned out, I remembered him also. It was Dick Landis, who was a catcher for several seasons.  

“Later I again pitched against Jerry Witte, Gerry Burmeister, Frank Mancuso and some other ex-Buffs while playing on a summer league team that Father Wilson coached. It was the St. Thomas American Legion team he entered in the summer league to play against older players. Our club was sponsored by Stuart’s Drive Inn. The competition against real professionals also gave us a real edge against players of our own age. I recall that one of the ex-Buff  pitchers was the knuckle baller, Al Papai. That was the one and only time most of us would ever have to bat against that particular pitch. Thank goodness.

“I did pitch a second short round of BP for the Buffs, but don’t remember much about the second trip. I do remember that both times I pitched the Buff hitters were not out there to show me mercy. They were swinging for the fences. As best I remember, none of them ever made it.

“My time in baseball and football are both filled with many fond memories. I still am most thankful for all the life lessons that came to me from playing team sports, and, of course, all the life long friends I’ve met as a result of this part of my life. When all  is said and done, I am simply most grateful to all the many people who helped me along the way.” – Mike Mulvihill.

The Pecan Park Eagle thanks you today for a most wonderful story, Mike Mulvihill, and I must say this to you also as an ancient friend and classmate: I know of no one from our graduating St. Thomas Class of 1956 who is more deserving of honor and respect, both for your accomplishments in sports and your genuine goodness as a most decent and giving human being. And guess what too? I am just one member of your St. Thomas legion of respectful friends and fans. You truly are – the embodiment of everything that St. Thomas High School is all about.



Now is the Time for All True Seasons

February 24, 2015
The passionate pursuits of humanity do not so easily reduce to seasonal compartmentalization.

The passionate pursuits of humanity do not so easily reduce to seasonal compartmentalization.


About a year ago this coming spring, a month or so prior to the NFL draft, one fairly otherwise ordinary day found a crisp way into the memory bank that starts all thoughts on this subject. With the car radio turned on to a Houston sports talk show, what came through the air from the voices of callers was hardly a surprise. This was during the time of year in which most local callers wanted to register their two cents on who the Texans should draft with their first pick above all others.

Would the Texans draft someone who could be the answer to their long-term QB needs – and should it be Johnny Manziel? Well, the second part of that question has now died and gone to the land of no longer relevant, but the first part already is popping up on the air in pre-March Madness time in college basketball and during the start of spring training for the Astros, but it should really hit high gear again with talk show callers once the round ball insanity finds its wrap in early April. The difference now, of course, is that the Texans no longer have the range of candidate choices and a pick in the order of things to even have a shot at either of the two strongest QB candidates. The price of improving from terrible to mediocrity in one season is the damage it does to the Texans’ position in the draft in an even less fertile field of choices.

All that aside, the thing that comes to memory this morning is the caller I heard that ordinary day who innocently, unconsciously, but most sincerely made this evaluation of the pre-NFL draft period in 2014. “This is the toughest part of the football season,” the man said.

That’s right, the man said it for the millions, probably most of whom are heavily NFL fans, but we feel fairly certain that there are some deep-blue basketball fans – and we know first hand that there are some dyed-in-the-wool baseball fans – who feel the same 24/7 year-round connection to their own favorite sports and teams.

The only thing seasonal about sports today are the generally same times of year that the “Big Three” play their overlapping game schedules, but, as rings truer by the day for almost all we do in our culture, sports too are wired in to the same 24/7 consciousness of them by the always consuming technological advances in media coverage that fan any question of shocking possibility into a consuming flame of almost ceaseless public media discussion – until some other shocker comes along and knocks it off the road of mass attention.

The Ray Rice Punch Out of his then girl friend in the elevator last year rang a very loud bell about the much larger national problem of partner abuse in relationships. From its 24/7 media coverage, however, it rippled open other specific questions about how our relevant institutions handle these matters. In the Rice case, Commissioner Roger Goodell and the NFL quickly became poster children for the way their initial “once over lightly” treatment of Rice was the perfect example of how the very entities we expect to handle tough social issues like partner abuse may actually transform themselves into enablers of the problem by their unwillingness to “know” the facts or take tougher actions. As a result of the immediate media heat that fell directly upon Godell and his “taking on water fast” first position of “I never saw the actual punch; I didn’t know how bad it really was” rhetoric, Goodell reversed course in time to partially save face and put in motion a position that may help work against ignoring the problem in the future through an aggressive program of public awareness that the NFL is opposed to men beating up on women and children. The Adrian Peterson case, of course, also fed into this change of course in the NFL’s former soft policy on abuse.

Media. Media. Media. – That one public service message for TV that the NFL put together has the look of a classic. A baker’s dozen of some of the meanest looking guys in the NFL staring angrily at the camera – all expressing a simple message – “No More – Abuse of Women” – to all the abusive men out there sitting around, clean, neat, and sober – or just on the couch in their tidy-whities, drinking beer and getting drunk by half time – was altogether pretty powerful stuff.

Everything is about change and our adaptability to undeniable forces in our lives. In today’s multi-media world, none of us may any longer even  go to the grocery store without making an appearance on someone’s security camera – and cell phone cameras? Wow! Have you ever wondered how many stranger crowd shots and selfies also include a few incidental images of you, as well? – George Orwell was right when he wrote “1984” as his future piece. He simply underestimated the timeline by not understanding how the personal computer and this thing we call the Internet and a plentiful supply of digital cameras and portable phones would change our world forever.

People still exist who write pen and ink letters. Some still use typewriters – the modern kind – the ones that run on electricity. And all these people still have land line phones, but absolutely will not get anywhere near a cell. Home phones often lack “call waiting” and “voice mail” features because – after all – we can only talk to one person at a time and – who needs a message? – If someone really wants to talk with us, they can call us back when we are “picking up”! Right?

Most of these people are called “seniors”, but not all of us seniors are so change resistant. It’s like this example. When the then younger people of my generation once bought their tickets for the train ride through life, many did not buy passage to a future they could not see coming. So, when we got here, those who didn’t like what they saw just decided to treat everything that was new, scary, or intimidating as something that didn’t exist. Computers were too out of the picture from the future they once imaged.  s

Some of us, however, only regret that we will not be around long enough to see the really great further changes that are on the way. In the meanwhile, we will just burrow into the joy of the only time zone that really exists, anyway – the here and now – and soak it all in to the best of our adaptive abilities.

The talk show caller was right. There is only one season – and that season is the present – and our involvement in the here and now with whatever fires our passion for living without harming the health of others or ourselves. I guess I’m still “old-fashioned” in that regard. If we cannot find our passion-calling in life without our actions bringing  intentional or collateral damage to others or ourselves, whatever we are doing to cause these harms is not a passion course, but a call to evil and insanity by the human ego.

The things are really important to us everyday are confined to seasonal interest only – and there’s no better example of that than Rogers Hornsby. When someone once asked him what he did during the winter, when there were no baseball games to be played, he supposedly answered, “I just stare out the window and wait for spring.”

Too bad old Rogers didn’t have access back then to a personal computer and the Internet. That little window is a lot more interesting during the winter time than the one that only peers out to the yard and today’s sky.











A Pecan Park Eagle Baseball Movie Quiz

February 23, 2015
(1) Left to right above, who are the two actors decked out here as Chicago Cubs personnel?

(1) Left to right above, who are the two actors decked out here as Chicago Cubs personnel?

Since The Pecan Park Eagle is now charged with the responsibility for developing the March Meeting of SABR’s Larry Dierker Chapter Baseball Trivia Quiz, we thought it would be fun to get a little spring training here with a practice run for all our readers to take on as free agents. This time we will stay with the baseball movie theme and again post the correct answers as the first post in the column section which follows this piece. Give yourself a point for each correct item of information you are asked to supply and please demonstrate here that your self esteem has nothing to do with test results by posting your scores and other feedback as comments on this column.

And remember, the quiz began with the question posted under the above featured photo!

(2) What mid-20th century character actor played both a St Louis catcher in “It Happens Every Spring” (1949) and a Pittsburgh manager in the original “Angels in the Outfield” (1951)?

(3) In the re-make of “Angels in the Outfield” (1994), who played the manager of the angel-infested outfield? And what team suffered the blessing this time? Was it the Pirates again? Or some other club? Name it. (Hint: If you struggle over the club’s precise name for that season, getting the location and nickname of this remake site club will get you a correct answer, anyway.)

(4) In “The Stratton Story”, pitcher Monty Stratton lost a leg in a hunting accident. Name the city and alleged ballpark where Stratton made his rather limited “comeback” as a pitcher in an organized baseball game.

(5) In “The Pride of St. Louis” (1952), who played Dizzy Dean and his brother, Paul Dean?

(6) In “The Babe” (1992), Babe Rut started hitting home runs in bunches during the dead ball era of Wee Willie Keeler and his “hit ‘em where they ain’t” batting philosophy. In that context, what did Babe Ruth supposedly say (at least, in the script) to defend his power approach to the press? (No exact words are required here. Expressing enough to get the gist of his remarks generalized will earn you credit.)

(7) All right. All right. All right. What currently still hot actor had a minor role in the 1994 version of “Angels in the Outfield”?

(8) Name the actor from “Bull Durham” who played catcher Crash Davis?

(9) In the silent movie, “Speedy” (1928), what famous baseball player actually appeared as a frightened rider in the cab of Harold “Speedy” Lloyd on a sinus-clearing drive from downtown Manhattan to Yankee Stadium?

(10) Who played outfielder Jimmy Piersall and his impossible-to-please father in “Fear Strikes Out” (1957)?

(11) In “The Babe Ruth Story” (1948), Babe Ruth signs a player contract with the Boston Braves under the mistaken impression that he eventually will move up and become the manager of the club. When he generally fails as a player, and in spite of his famous last hurrah 3-homer day in Pittsburgh, he learns that he is being released and there never was a clear guarantee of his future as the manager. When someone suggests he should “sue baseball” over this issue, the movie-Babe makes a statement that we invite you to finish:

“Sue Baseball? No. That would be like _____ ___ ______ !” (Finish the statement.)

(12) In “The Winning Team” (1952), what was Grover Cleveland Alexander’s day job before he became a professional baseball pitcher”

(13) Who played Rogers Hornsby in “The Winning Team” (1952)?

(14) When Ronald Reagan  (as Grover Alexander) in “The Winning Team” (1952) comes in to face Tony Lazzeri for that famous bases-loaded real moment in the bottom of the 7th of 1926’s World Series Game 7 at Yankee Stadium, he replaces Cardinal starter Jesse Haines on the mound. Question: What famous and excellent MLB pitcher played the role of Jesse Haines in this movie?

(15) At least ten (10) then current or former big leaguers also appeared in “The Winning Team” (1952) in minor roles. Name as many as you can. Right answers are all worth a point each.

(16) The mother of actress Jamie Lee Curtis played the female lead in the original “Angels in the Outfield” (1951) movie. Name her.

(17) Who played the dual role of Professor Vernon Simpson and Pitcher Mike “King” Kelly in “It Happens Every Spring” (1949)? And what actress played his always worried girl friend?

(18) In “It Happens Every Spring” (1949), what was the secret quality of the formula that allowed a college professor to become a virtually unbeatable pitcher until his magic elixir ran out?

Here’s where the quiz gets really easy. Nobody goes home with a zero on one of our quizzes. On these two, you get 1 point credit for each – but only if you post these answers as comments below – along with your test score, including these two potential points added in advance because you did post your results. – Got it? – Good! – And many thanks for your participation.

(19) Auto Point 1): Who is your pick for the most credibly athletic actor to ever have played a baseball player in a movie?

(2o) Auto Point 2): Who is your pick for the least athletic actor to ever have played a baseball player in a film?

… You say you want more? Here’s one final BONUS POINT, but only if you get it right! Finish the following quote by manager Tom Hanks in “A League of Their Own” (1992):

“There’s no crying in ——–!”


Thanks for spending the time with us. Hope you now have the few extra minutes left to post your results for bonus credit in the comment section.


The Pecan Park Eagle



Larry Dierker’s 18th Birthday 1964 1st Start

February 22, 2015
Larry Dierker's 18th Birthday Party September 22, 1964 ~How many people in the world ever got to celebrate their 18th birthday by striking out Willie Mays before they blew out the candles on their cake? ~

Larry Dierker’s 18th Birthday Party
September 22, 1964
~How many people in the world ever got to celebrate their 18th birthday by striking out Willie Mays in a big league game before they blew out the candles on their cake? ~

The Pecan Park Eagle apologizes to our friend and SABR colleague Larry Dierker for the absence of a kinder, more local source we surely would have found at the downtown Houston library, but on a late Saturday night column writing streak, we had to settle for the golden gate grist that flavors the tone of this writer’s reporting for the Oakland Tribune.

This newspaper account was the most detailed game report we could find through our digital newspaper resources that are available to us through our Newspaper Archive subscription service. The Tribune’s game story headlines bypass the storyline of Larry Dierker’s first start of his MLB career on his 18th birthday at old Colt Stadium on September 22, 1964. The header goes straight to the blaring shout that Juan Marichal will be going for his 20th win of the season in today’s game against World Series “Perfect Game” hero, also a former Giant and now an aging, but new starter for the Houston Colt .45s.

As all of who have followed his career from his incredible start on his 18th birthday to this very moment already know, Larry Dierker’s accomplishments and contributions to baseball are among the greatest in Houston MLB history – and far too numerous to bear repeating this morning in a brief first game focus.

Safe to say, Dierker was far more than good enough to have earned that retired #49 jersey number that will continue to hang forever in whatever venue survives as the future home of the Houston Astros. No one else has contributed so broadly to Houston baseball as “Dierk” has done either. As a player, columnist, essayist, book author, playwright, broadcaster, historian, community volunteer, Astros club manager and SABR Chapter namesake – nobody else in Houston baseball comes to mind who has done it better in so many important different ways.

Thanks for all you’ve done, Larry! You are very much loved, admired, and appreciated by all of us deep-orange and dark blue Houston baseball fans.

A lot of us too were breaking into our new fields of endeavor around the same time that Larry Dierker was making his 18th birthday MLB debut back in 1964. Those of us who started our careers  out of the bright public limelight that quickly found Larry in baseball had a big advantage on the “Kid from LA”. True, we also had to start our new life jobs by acting as though we already knew what we were doing before we actually did, but here’s where any similarity ends. Nobody put our daily learning curve results in a box score – and then wrote a daily public news story on how things were going for us on the job.

People like Dierker – and all other truly successful athletes – have to have owned the hides of a buffalo and the focus of an eagle to get through that crunch of media attention and still be able to play the game unfettered, if that’s even possible.-  Now it’s even worse. Today it’s 24/7 media attention. How crazy is that?

At any rate, here’s that Oakland sportswriter’s story of Larry Dierker’s first game, warts and all. The box score comes to us courtesy of that wonderful source we know as Baseball Almanac.com.



By Emmons Byrne (Oakland Tribune, September 23, 1964, Pages 39 and 41)


Over time, Larry became famous for his Hawaiian shirts and his "hang loose" personna.

Over time, Larry became famous in Houston for his Hawaiian shirts and his cool “hang loose” persona.

In contrast to Wednesday (It actually was Tuesday) when they started 18-year-old Larry Dierker, the Colt .45s will send Don Larsen to the post tonight against the Giants’ Juan Marichal.

Larsen’s chief claim to fame is the no-hitter he pitched in the 1956 World Series but he is also well known to Candlestick fans as a relief man the last two seasons.

The Giants sold him to Houston on May 20 and at the age of 35 he has reblossomed as a starting pitcher.  In seven starts since he moved into (the) rotation Aug. 18 he has an earned run average of 1.71.

So it would appear that Marichal will have to work for his 20th victory.

It was amateur night last evening and the 5,609 fans who turned out to see Dierker make his debut after a brief schooling in the Florida Instructional League left early.

It was just as well for the lack luster contest dragged far on into the hot and humid night before (Giants pitcher) Dick Estelle was credited with his first big league win by a score of 7-1.

Dierker, a bonus baby from Los Angeles, hit the backstop with his first pitch to Harvey Kuenn and eventually walked him.

Hal Lanier followed with a single but the 6’4″ right-hander kept on firing. Mateo Alou fouled to the catcher and Jim Hart and Willie Mays struck out.

Orlando Cepeda greeted the Kid with his 31st homer of the year, a blast into the left field seats, to open the second round.

Tom Haller and Jim Davenport singled and both advanced on a wild pitch. Haller came home on Kuenn’s sacrifice fly to right and Davenport also scored when Rusty Staub’s throw went through catcher Jerry Grote.

In his inexperience, Dierker failed to back up the play and he was well on his way to an early shower in the next inning.

He tried to pick Mays off first, but the throw was wide and Willie didn’t stop running until he reached third. He then scored on a wild pitch and Larry Yellen, another rookie just recalled from Oklahoma City, relieved.

Larry sailed fa ew balls over the batters' heads by accident, but he has been known by his wry sense of humor to also float a few punchlines over his listeners' heads at times..

Larry sailed a few balls over the batters’ heads, but rarely by accident, and he also has been known by his wry and playful sense of humor to float a few story punchlines over his listeners’ heads.

(The balance of the article is largely about the Giants’ faint pennant hopes, but the writer does note that Harvey Kuenn picked up his 2,000th hit on a 9th inning single, further noting that the ball then was retrieved by umpire Jocko Conlon for Kuenn’s souvenir case. The Giants went on to win the game, 7-1, but let’s allow writer Emmons Byrne to finish his game account.)

The lone Colt run came in the fourth on Grote’s triple against the center field fence.  Mays’ throw was up the line and Grote kept on running to score as Willie was charged with an error.


Baseball Almanac Box ScoresSan Francisco Giants 7, Houston Colt .45s 1
San Francisco Giants ab   r   h rbi
Kuenn lf 4 0 3 1
Lanier 2b 6 1 2 0
Alou rf 5 1 2 0
Hart 3b 4 1 1 0
  Pagan ss 0 0 0 0
Mays cf 4 1 1 1
Cepeda 1b 4 1 2 3
Haller c 4 1 2 0
Davenport ss,3b 5 1 1 0
Estelle p 4 0 0 0
  Murakami p 0 0 0 0
Totals 40 7 14 5
Houston Colt .45s ab   r   h rbi
Kasko ss,3b 5 0 2 0
Morgan 2b 1 0 0 0
Aspromonte 3b 4 0 3 0
  Jackson pr,ss 1 0 0 0
Bond 1b 5 0 0 0
Wynn cf 3 0 0 0
Staub rf 4 0 0 0
Beauchamp lf 4 0 0 0
Grote c 3 1 1 0
  Bateman c 1 0 0 0
Dierker p 1 0 0 0
  Yellen p 0 0 0 0
  Giusti p 2 0 1 0
  Gaines ph 1 0 0 0
  Jones p 0 0 0 0
Totals 35 1 7 0
San Francisco 0 3 1 3 0 0 0 0 0 7 14 2
Houston 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 7 3
  San Francisco Giants IP H R ER BB SO
Estelle  W (1-1) 8.0 7 1 1 6 4
  Murakami  SV (1) 1.0 0 0 0 0 0
  Houston Colt .45s IP H R ER BB SO
Dierker  L (0-1) 2.2 5 4 2 3 3
  Yellen 1.0 2 3 3 2 0
  Giusti 4.1 5 0 0 0 3
  Jones 1.0 2 0 0 0 2

E–Pagan (20), Mays (5), Kasko (14), Bond (12), Wynn (7).  3B–Houston Grote (3,off Estelle).  HR–San Francisco Cepeda (31,2nd inning off Dierker 0 on, 0 out).  SH–Estelle (1,off Jones).  SF–Kuenn (2,off Dierker).  Team LOB–13.  Team–13.  WP–Dierker 2 (2).  U-HP–Lee Weyer, 1B–Jocko Conlan, 2B–Doug Harvey, 3B–Tony Venzon.  T–3:02.  A–5,608.

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Presidential First Pitches

February 21, 2015
# 1 William Hoard Taft USA President # 27 Republican Term:: 1909-1913

# 1 William Howard Taft
USA President # 27
Term:: 1909-1913

Presidents of the United States have been throwing out documented first pitches of the baseball season in Washington or elsewhere since the administration of William Howard Taft. If any chief executives before Taft ever did the same, it occurred in eras in which there either were no cameras to record it or it simply was an earlier time in which the art of photography was considered too complex and cumbersome to do outside a studio.

A few of these first pitch presidents shown here were pretty knowledegeable of baseball, with Nixon, Reagan, Eisenhower and the two Bushes probably ranking at the head of the class and most likely to have been members of SABR under different life circumstances. The rest ranged from avid home town fans to casual fans to indifferents who understood the potential loss of political support from baseball fans had they chosen on the basis of apathey not to throw out a first ball somewhere voting support was critical.

Ronald Reagan is the only former president to have been a former baseball radio play-by-play guy and later an actor who had portrayed the life of a Hall of Fame pitcher in the movies. Reagan played the lead role of Grover Cleveland Alexander in the 1952 film, “The Winning Team”. Coincidentally to his appearance in that role, Reagan also became the only United States President to have made a co-starring movie with actress Doris Day.

Incidental to this population of 18 presidents are these two basic facts: 10 were Republicans and 8 were Democrats. 14 were right handed and 4 were lefties.

Here is our pictorial on the 17 remaining “first pitch presidents”:

# 1 Woodrow Wilson USA President # 28 Democrat Term:: 1913-1921

# 2 Woodrow Wilson
USA President # 28
Term:: 1913-1921

# 3 Warren G. Harding USA President # 29 Republican Term:: 1921-1923

# 3 Warren G. Harding
USA President # 29
Term:: 1921-1923

    # 1 Calvin Coolidge     USA President # 30     Republican     Term:: 1923-1929

# 4 Calvin Coolidge
USA President # 30
Term:: 1923-1929

    # 4 Calvin Coolidge     USA President # 31 Herbert Hoover     Republican     Term:: 1929-1933

# 5 Herbert Hoover
USA President # 31
Term:: 1929-1933

    # 6 Franklin Delano Roosevelt     USA President # 32     Democrat     Term:: 1933-1945

# 6 Franklin Delano Roosevelt
USA President # 32
Term:: 1933-1945

    # 7 Harry S. TRUMAN     USA President # 33     Democrat     Term:: 1945-1953

# 7 Harry S. TRUMAN
USA President # 33
Term:: 1945-1953

    # 8 Dwight David Eisenhower     USA President # 34     Republican     Term:: 1953-1961

# 8 Dwight David Eisenhower
USA President # 34
Term:: 1953-1961

    # 9 John Fitzgerald Kennedy     USA President # 35     Democrat     Term:: 1961-1963

# 9 John Fitzgerald Kennedy
USA President # 35
Term:: 1961-1963

    # 10 Lyndon Baines Johnson     USA President # 36     Democrat     Term:: 1963-1969

# 10 Lyndon Baines Johnson
USA President # 36
Term:: 1963-1969

    # 11Richard Milhous Nixon     USA President # 37     Republican     Term:: 1969-1974

# 11 Richard Nixon
USA President # 37
Term:: 1969-1974

    # 12 Gerald Ford     USA President # 38     Republican     Term:: 1974-1977

# 12 Gerald Ford
USA President # 38
Term:: 1974-1977

    # 13 Jimmy Carter     USA President # 39     Democrat      Term:: 1977-1981

# 13 Jimmy Carter
USA President # 39
Term:: 1977-1981

    # 14 Ronald Reagan     USA President # 40     Republican     Term:: 1981-1989

# 14 Ronald Reagan
USA President # 40
Term:: 1981-1989

    # 15 George H.W. Bush     USA President # 41     Republican     Term:: 1989-19893

# 15 George H.W. Bush
USA President # 41
Term:: 1989-1993

    # 16 Bill Clinton     USA President # 42     Democrat     Term:: 1993-2001

# 16 Bill Clinton
USA President # 42
Term:: 1993-2001

    # 17 George W. Bush     USA President # 43     Republican     Term:: 2001-2009

# 17 George W. Bush
USA President # 43
Term:: 2001-2009

    # 18 Barack Obama     USA President # 44     2009 to Presentt Time, 2015 Projecte  Term:: 2009-2017

# 18 Barack Obama
USA President # 44
Projected Full Term:: 2009-2017


Have a nice weekend, everybody, and lick your chops, fellow game action starved baseball fans! – Spring training has begun and the first pitch of the regular 2015 season in professional baseball is only a little more than a month away. In the meanwhile  and beyond too, Houston fans, try to catch some of the  great amateur level ball that is already underway for the #3 ranked Houston Cougars and the always highly regarded Rice Owls. – Consider throwing some of that “love of the game” you possess toward the idea of also actively supporting college, high school, and youth baseball fully this season. These younger people aren’t (yet) playing for the big bucks and most never will, but their own love and drive to play the game at a high level will be rapidly apparent to you at the various ball fields around Houston – or at your own home town.

It’s our game, friends! Let’s do all we can to enjoy and support the game as actively as possible. And, Houston area folks, please don’t forget the independent Atlantic League’s Sugar Land Skeeters while your window shopping for baseball fun. That place is good baseball in a beautifully nostalgic ballpark and a lot of good clean fun for the whole family. Between the Skeeters and our resurrecting 2015 Houston Astros, this season could well see winning move through possible on its way to probable at Minute Maid Park – and with a possibility of UH and Rice both reaching Omaha for a NCAA college baseball crown.

It’s spring. Hope springs eternal.

Another Blair Witch Hunt Photo: Guess Who?

February 20, 2015
Who Are These Guys? And how many of our column guesses are right?

Who Are These Guys?
And how many of our column guesses are right?


The above photo is simply the latest of mysteries submitted by The Brothers Blair, Bob and Daryl. It actually works this way. – Daryl Blair finds these little items of historical inquisitiveness and sends them to his brother Bob Blair, who then forwards them on to The Pecan Park Eagle with few words and no solicitation either way. Here at the Eagle, we then have to make the decision each time on the merits of sending them on to our readership.

So far, the Blair Brothers are batting 1.000 with their ability to hit our dedication to sharing news and mysteries from baseball’s past, no matter how arcane the specific subject may be – and today’s submission is no exception. Bob Blair’s only guess on the identities of the men in this picture found expression in a single e-mail sentence: “Daryl sent this photo and for the life of me I can only pick out the Babe and the commissioner.”

Bob Blair was right about Babe Ruth, but he apparently mistook the always suited Connie Mack for “the commissioner”, and whomever specific he had in mind.

Here are our Pecan Park Eagle picks on all featured individuals in two columns, left to right. Our absolutely certain picks are embellished in bold type. Our considered guesses and possibly incorrect identifications are not. – Now all we need is for you readers, or someone like SABR photo expert and colleague Bill Hickman, to swoop in here and clear up any wrong guesses – and maybe even tell us what, where, and when this stadium gathering of greats even occurred. It appears to be an old-timers’ all star game.

Here are our conclusions ~

The Pecan Park Eagle Picks (Bold Type for Certainty), Left to Right:

Back Row: Jimmy Collins, Eddie Collins, Frank “Pancho” Snyder, Connie Mack, Al Barlick, George Kelly, and George Sisler.

Front Row: Honus Wagner, Travis Jackson, Babe Ruth, Walter Johnson, and Tris Speaker.

Come on, Bill Hickman, or somebody, step up to the plate and clear the bases of all ambiguity!


Ongoing Box Score of Incorrect Photo ID Corrections to Certainty (Or as Close as We get):

Through 1st Corrections, near 1:00 PM, CST, Friday, February 20, 2015.)

Latest Reconstruction Published Below, Followed by Order of Contributor Submission per Correct Subject Identification ~

Back Row: (Duffy Lewis), Eddie Collins, (Roger Bresnahan), Connie Mack, (Bill Klem),  (Red Murray) and George Sisler.

Front Row: Honus Wagner, (Frankie Frisch), Babe Ruth, Walter Johnson, and Tris Speaker.

All bold type names above in this latest list were correct in the first place. All corrected identities names are also shown in bold type, but enclosed in parentheses in notation of the work our readership contributed to getting all identities right.

Here too is our List of Contributors on Solving the  Identities for All Five of the originals we were not sure about and guessed wrong in naming. All seven of our original certain picks proved just that. They were correct. But all five of our doubtful picks in the first place proved to be  wrong. The list includes the in photo order appearance the corrected identity figure in parentheses, followed by the Internet or personal identity of the person or persons who conatcted us by e-mail or comment post with the correct information:

(Duffy Lewis) by Shinerbock80

(Roger Bresnahan) by Shinerbock80

(Bill Klem) by (1) Larry Dierker; (2) Fred Soland; and (3) Shinerbock80

(Red Murray) by Shinerbock80

(Frankie Frisch) by Shinerbock80

If anyone wants to confirm or challenge our 12 picks as now all accurate, which we think they now are, with objective proof of support or contradiction, please feel free to so.

Thanks too to Shinerbock80  for offering that an unnamed Internet source relates that the photo was taken in 1943. We are still some chump change short of knowing what specifically brought these aging greats together in uniform to have their picture taken together in their old MLB uniforms.

Editor, The Pecan Park Eagle.


Imprimatur. Near 2:00 PM, Friday, February, February 20, 2015:

Bill Hickman has checked in. Let’s pull his verbatim from the comment section as the cork on this little bottle of historical baseball identity search, leaving room, of course, for where and what this convocation of greatness was all about.

Bill Hickman Says:

“shinerbock80, you completed the work for me. I had already identified Klem instead of Barlick and had determined that the fellow in the back row, far left was not Jimmy Collins (ears stuck out too much). The player with the chest protector bore a substantial resemblance to Frank Snyder, but Snyder was 6’2″ tall, so he should have appeared taller than Connie Mack. Roger Bresnahan was 5’9″, which was the same height as Eddie Collins, so I’m satisfied that he was the right identification. I checked all the other names in shinerbock80’s posting and agree with them as well.

Because Rogers Hornsby’s coaching career with the Pirates spanned from 1933 to 1951, I was assuming that he was wearing a contemporary uniform, and that would date the photo in the 1940’s, so the 1943 year reported by shinerbock80 makes sense to me.”


– Thanks, Bill Hickman,, shinerbock80, Larry Dierker, and Fred Soland for your participation and contributions here today. – The Pecan Park Eagle.


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